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[[File:Zhdan Dementiyev 01 Seth (1630).jpg|thumb|Zhdan Dementiyev 01 Seth (1630)]]
 
 
 
== Genesis ==
 
== Genesis ==
  
According to [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Genesis+4%3A25&version=ASV Genesis 4:25], Seth was born after the slaying of Abel by Cain, and Eve believed God had appointed him as a replacement for Abel.
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According to Genesis 4:25<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Genesis+4%3A25&version=ASV Genesis 4:25 - Biblegateway.com]</ref>, Seth was born after the slaying of Abel by Cain, and Eve believed God had appointed him as a replacement for Abel.
 
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Adam lived a hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth. [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Genesis+5%3A3&version=ASV Genesis 5:3]
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Adam lived a hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth (Genesis 5:3)<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Genesis+5%3A3&version=ASV Biblegateway.com]</ref>.
 
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The Genostics believed that Seth was given as a replacement for Abel and it was said that late in life, Adam gave Seth secret teachings that formed part of the esoteric traditions which were later incorporated into the Kabbalah.
 
The Genostics believed that Seth was given as a replacement for Abel and it was said that late in life, Adam gave Seth secret teachings that formed part of the esoteric traditions which were later incorporated into the Kabbalah.
  
 
== Jewish Tradition ==
 
== Jewish Tradition ==
  
Rabbi Shlomo Yitzhaqi refered to Seth as the ancestor of [http://www.wikipedia.com/Noah Noah] and hence the father of all mankind, all other humans having perished in the [http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Great_Flood Great Flood].
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Rabbi Shlomo Yitzhaqi refered to Seth as the ancestor of Noah<ref>[http://www.wikipedia.com/Noah Noah - Wikipedia]</ref> and hence the father of all mankind, all other humans having perished in the Great Flood<ref>[http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Great_Flood Great Flood - Wikipedia]</ref>.
  
 
== Egyptian Gnostics ==
 
== Egyptian Gnostics ==
  
Abu l-Hasan [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masudi al-Masudi]<ref>Ali ibn al-Husayn ibn Ali al-Mas'udi (c. 896-956) was an Arab historian and geographer</ref> writes, "One of the two pyramids (of Giza) is the tomb of Agathodaimon (Seth), the other one is the tomb of Hermes, (Idris, Enoch). Between the two 1000 years elapsed, Agathodaimon was the older one". Additionally, Jean Doresse, in ''The Secret Books of the Egyptian Gnostics'' writes, "Seth... is known in Islam, and usually assimilated to Agathodaimon, who is one of the great figures of Hermetic literature. The prophetic prestige with which the Gnostics endowed him, he still possesses, especially in the traditions of various Shi'ite groups, therefore chiefly in Mesopotamia or in Iran. In these particular doctrines the survival of Gnostic themes is ubiquitous..."
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Abu l-Hasan Al-Masudi<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masudi Al-Masudi] Ali ibn al-Husayn ibn Ali al-Mas'udi (c. 896-956) was an Arab historian and geographer (Wikipedia)</ref> writes, "One of the two pyramids (of Giza) is the tomb of Agathodaimon (Seth), the other one is the tomb of Hermes, (Idris, Enoch). Between the two 1000 years elapsed, Agathodaimon was the older one". Additionally, Jean Doresse, in ''The Secret Books of the Egyptian Gnostics'' writes, "Seth... is known in Islam, and usually assimilated to Agathodaimon, who is one of the great figures of Hermetic literature. The prophetic prestige with which the Gnostics endowed him, he still possesses, especially in the traditions of various Shi'ite groups, therefore chiefly in Mesopotamia or in Iran. In these particular doctrines the survival of Gnostic themes is ubiquitous..."
  
 
== Christian Gnostics ==
 
== Christian Gnostics ==
  
* According to the 2nd century BC [http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Jubilees Book of Jubilees]<ref>''The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament'', R.H. Charles, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1913. [http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/noncanon/ot/pseudo/jubilee.htm Book of Jubilees] 4:7-13. ISBN 978-0-9747623-7-1.</ref> in 231 AM Seth married his sister, who was four years younger than he was. In the year 235 AM, Azura gave birth to Enos.
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* According to the 2nd century BC Book of Jubilees 4:7-13<ref>[http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Jubilees Book of Jubilees] 'The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament'', R.H. Charles, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1913.'</ref> Seth married his sister in 231 AM, who was four years younger than he was. In the year 235 AM, Azura gave birth to Enos.
  
* The [http://wikipedia.com/wiki/Sethians Sethians] were a Christian Gnostic sect who may date their existence to before Christianity. Their influence spread throughout the Mediterranean into the later systems of the Basilideans and the Valentinians. Their thinking, though is predominantly Judaic in foundation influenced by Platonism. Sethians are so called for their veneration of the biblical Seth, who is depicted in their myths of creation as a divine incarnation; consequently, the offspring or 'posterity' of Seth are held to comprise a superior elect within human society.
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* The Sethians<ref>[http://wikipedia.com/wiki/Sethians Sethians] - Wikipedia</ref> were a Christian Gnostic sect who may date their existence to before Christianity. Their influence spread throughout the Mediterranean into the later systems of the Basilideans and the Valentinians. Their thinking, though is predominantly Judaic in foundation influenced by Platonism. Sethians are so called for their veneration of the biblical Seth, who is depicted in their myths of creation as a divine incarnation; consequently, the offspring or 'posterity' of Seth are held to comprise a superior elect within human society.
  
* The [http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Seth Knights of Seth] were a 19th-century British-Germann Neo-Sethian group that attempted to resurrect that medieval Gnostic and dualistic Christian tradition.
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* The Knights of Seth<ref>[http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Seth Knights of Seth] - Wikipedia</ref> were a 19th-century British-Germann Neo-Sethian group that attempted to resurrect that medieval Gnostic and dualistic Christian tradition.
  
 
== Generations of Adam ==
 
== Generations of Adam ==
  
"Generations of Adam" refer to the line of descent going through Seth rather than Cain or any of Adam's other offspring. The Sethite line extends to Noah and his three sons. Lamech, the nineth generation from Adam is described as the father of Noah. [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+4%3A17-22&version=NRSV Geneis 4:17:22], [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+5%3A1-32&version=NRSV Genesis 5:1-32]
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"Generations of Adam" refer to the line of descent going through Seth rather than Cain or any of Adam's other offspring. The Sethite line extends to Noah and his three sons. Lamech, the nineth generation from Adam is described as the father of Noah. {Genesis 4:17:22<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+4%3A17-22&version=NRSV Genesis 4:17:22]</ref> & Genesis 5:1-32<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+5%3A1-32&version=NRSV Genesis 5:1-32]</ref>)
  
 
== Sethianism ==
 
== Sethianism ==
  
The Sethians were a Gnostic sect so called for their veneration of the third son of Adam and Eve and the lineal descendants who were considered more originally divine than other men. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranaeus Iranaeus] is the main source of information about the Sethians who were considered a pre-christian Jewish sect.
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The Sethians were a Gnostic sect so called for their veneration of the third son of Adam and Eve and the lineal descendants who were considered more originally divine than other men. Iranaeus<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranaeus Iranaeus] - Wikipedia</ref> is the main source of information about the Sethians who were considered a pre-christian Jewish sect.
  
 
=== Sethian Controversy ===
 
=== Sethian Controversy ===
  
The [http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Gospel_of_Judas Gospel of Judas] belongs to a school of Gnosticism called Sethianism, a group who looked to Adam's son Seth as their spiritual ancestor. As in other Sethian documents, Jesus is equated with Seth: "The first is Seth, who is called Christ."
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The Gospel of Judas<ref>[http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Gospel_of_Judas Gospel of Judas] - New World Encyclopedia</ref> belongs to a school of Gnosticism called Sethianism, a group who looked to Adam's son Seth as their spiritual ancestor. As in other Sethian documents, Jesus is equated with Seth: "The first is Seth, who is called Christ."
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====The Cainites====
  
:The Cainites were an alleged sect of Gnosticism that especially worshipped Cain as a hero. Irenaeus alleged that the Cainites, like a large number of Gnostic groups, were semi-maltheists believing that the god of the Old Testament—Yahweh—was evil, and a quite different and much lesser being to the deity that had created the universe, and who was responsible for sending Jesus. Such Gnostic groups worshipped as heroes all the Biblical figures that had sought to discover knowledge or challenge Yahweh's authority, while demonizing those who would have been seen as heroes in a more orthodox interpretation.
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:The Cainites were an alleged sect of Gnosticism that especially worshipped Cain as a hero. Irenaeus alleged that the Cainites, like a large number of Gnostic groups, were semi-maltheists <u>believing that the god of the Old Testament—Yahweh—was evil, and a quite different and much lesser being to the deity that had created the universe</u>, and who was responsible for sending Jesus. Such Gnostic groups worshipped as heroes all the Biblical figures that had sought to discover knowledge or challenge Yahweh's authority, while demonizing those who would have been seen as heroes in a more orthodox interpretation.
  
 
=== Sethian texts ===
 
=== Sethian texts ===
  
Non-Christian texts
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====Non-Christian texts====
* The [[wikipedia:Apocalypse of Adam | Apocalypse of Adam]] - but surviving with Christian redaction.
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* The Apocalypse of Adam<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_of_adam Apocalypse of Adam] - Wikipedia</ref> - but surviving with Christian redaction.
  
 
:: Adam tells Seth how he learned a word of knowledge of the eternal God from Eve and that he and Eve were indeed more powerful than their supposed creator. But that knowledge was lost in the fall when the subcreator - the '''demiurge''' <ref>The demiurge is a concept from the Platonic(SP), Neopythagorean(SP), Middle Platonic(SP), and Neoplatonic(SP) schools of philosophy for an artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and maintenance of the physical universe. The term was subsequently adopted by the Gnostics(SP). Although a fashioner, the demiurge is not necessarily thought of as being the same as the creator figure</ref> - separated Adam and Eve. Adam relates how three mysterious strangers brought about Seth's begetting and so a preservation of this knowledge. Adam then prophecies at length attempts of the subcreator god to destroy mankind, including the prophecy of the great Deluge.
 
:: Adam tells Seth how he learned a word of knowledge of the eternal God from Eve and that he and Eve were indeed more powerful than their supposed creator. But that knowledge was lost in the fall when the subcreator - the '''demiurge''' <ref>The demiurge is a concept from the Platonic(SP), Neopythagorean(SP), Middle Platonic(SP), and Neoplatonic(SP) schools of philosophy for an artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and maintenance of the physical universe. The term was subsequently adopted by the Gnostics(SP). Although a fashioner, the demiurge is not necessarily thought of as being the same as the creator figure</ref> - separated Adam and Eve. Adam relates how three mysterious strangers brought about Seth's begetting and so a preservation of this knowledge. Adam then prophecies at length attempts of the subcreator god to destroy mankind, including the prophecy of the great Deluge.
  
Christian texts
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====Christian texts====
* The [[wikipedia:Apocryphon of John | Apocryphon of John]]
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* The Apocryphon of John<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocryphon_of_John Apocryphon of John] - Wikipedia</ref>
* The [[wikipedia:Thought of Norea | Thought of Norea]]
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* The Thought of Norea<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_of_Norea Thought of Norea] - Wikipedia</ref>
* The [[wikipedia:Trimorphic Protennoia | Trimorphic Protennoia]]
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* The Trimorphic Protennoia<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimorphic_Protennoia Trimorphic Protennoia] - Wikipedia</ref>
* The [[wikipedia:Coptic Gospel of the Egyptians | Coptic Gospel of the Egyptians]]
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* The Coptic Gospel of the Egyptians<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Gospel_of_the_Egyptians Coptic Gospel of the Egyptians] - Wikipedia</ref>
* The [[wikipedia:Gospel of Judas | Gospel of Judas]]
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* The Gospel of Judas<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Judas Gospel of Judas] - Wikipedia</ref>
 
* The Untitled Apocalypse (or ''The Gnosis of the Light'')
 
* The Untitled Apocalypse (or ''The Gnosis of the Light'')
  
Later texts (arguably with a Platonist influence)
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====Later texts (arguably with a Platonist influence)====
* [[wikipedia:Zostrianos | Zostrianos]]
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* Zostrianos<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zostrianos Zostrianos] - Wikipedia</ref>
* [[wikipedia:Three Steles of Seth | Three Steles of Seth]]
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* Three Steles of Seth<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Steles_of_Seth Three Steles of Seth] - Wikipedia</ref>
* [[wikipedia:Marsanes | Marsanes]]
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* Marsanes<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsanes Marsanes] - Wikipedia</ref>
* [[wikipedia:Allogenes | Allogenes]]
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* Allogenes<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allogenes Allogenes] - Wikipedia</ref>
  
== The Seth Materials ==
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== See also ==
 
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* [[Providential Figures]]
The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Material '''Seth Material'''] is a collection of metaphysical texts dictated by the American psychic '''Jane Roberts''' to her husband from late 1963 until her death in 1984. The words were purportedly suggested to Roberts by a discarnate entity who referred to himself as "an energy personality essence, no longer focused in physical reality", and calling himself Seth, who, she said, took control of her body and spoke through her.<ref>Roberts, Jane. ''ESP Power''. 2000; Stack, Rick. ''Out-Of-Body Adventures''. 1988; Hathaway, Michael R. ''The Complete Idiot's Guide to Past Life Regression''. 2003, p. 208; Watkins, Susan. ''Conversations With Seth, Book 2: 25th Anniversary Edition''. 2006.</ref> The material is regarded as one of the cornerstones of New Age philosophy, and the most influential ''channelled'' text of the post-World War II "New Age" movement, other than ''A Course in Miracles''.<ref>Talbot, Michael. ''The Holographic Universe'', 1991; Hanegraff, Wouter J. ''New Age Religion and Western Culture: Esotericism in the Mirror of Secular Thought'', SUNY Press, 1998, pp. 122&ndash;126; Hammer, Olav. ''Claiming Knowledge: Strategies of Epistemology from Theosophy to the New Age''. BRILL, 2004, p. 342; Upton, Charles. ''The System of Antichrist: Truth and Falsehood in Postmodernism and the New Age''. Sophia Perennis, 2005, pp. 169&ndash;173.</ref> Professor of psychology Jon Klimo writes that the Seth books were instrumental in bringing the idea of channeling to a broad public audience.<ref>Klimo, Jon. ''Channeling: Investigations on Receiving Information from Paranormal Sources''. North Atlantic Books 1998, p. 22.</ref>
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The core teachings of the ''Seth Material'' are based on the principle that consciousness creates matter,<ref>Chapter 1, ''Seth Speaks'', by Jane Roberts (1972); "Consciousness creates form. It is not the other way around".</ref> and that "each individual creates his or her own reality through thoughts, beliefs and expectations, and that the "point of power" through which the individual can effect change is in the present moment."<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Material#Summary</ref>
 
 
 
It is not clear what, if any, connection there is between the spirit "Seth" who speaks to Jane Roberts and the Patriarch Seth. It is most likely the spirit has simply adopted the name of the one considered the actual "original ancestor" of mankind.
 
  
 
== References ==
 
== References ==
 
 
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==External links==
* [[Providential Figures]]
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* [http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/seth-in-the-bible Seth in the Bible] by historian, author, and Nobel Prize Winner Elie Wiesel
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* [http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/noncanon/ot/pseudo/jubilee.htm Book of Jubilees] ISBN 978-0-9747623-7-1
* [http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/seth-in-the-bible/ ''Seth in the Bible'' by ''historian, author, and Nobel Prize Winner'' Elie Wiesel]
 
  
  
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Latest revision as of 04:31, 18 August 2015

Topic in Antediluvian Patriarchs. By Charles Kamins.

This article is about the third son of Adam and Eve, Seth.
Zhdan Dementiyev 01 Seth (1630)

Genesis

According to Genesis 4:25[1], Seth was born after the slaying of Abel by Cain, and Eve believed God had appointed him as a replacement for Abel.

Adam lived a hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth (Genesis 5:3)[2].

The Genostics believed that Seth was given as a replacement for Abel and it was said that late in life, Adam gave Seth secret teachings that formed part of the esoteric traditions which were later incorporated into the Kabbalah.

Jewish Tradition

Rabbi Shlomo Yitzhaqi refered to Seth as the ancestor of Noah[3] and hence the father of all mankind, all other humans having perished in the Great Flood[4].

Egyptian Gnostics

Abu l-Hasan Al-Masudi[5] writes, "One of the two pyramids (of Giza) is the tomb of Agathodaimon (Seth), the other one is the tomb of Hermes, (Idris, Enoch). Between the two 1000 years elapsed, Agathodaimon was the older one". Additionally, Jean Doresse, in The Secret Books of the Egyptian Gnostics writes, "Seth... is known in Islam, and usually assimilated to Agathodaimon, who is one of the great figures of Hermetic literature. The prophetic prestige with which the Gnostics endowed him, he still possesses, especially in the traditions of various Shi'ite groups, therefore chiefly in Mesopotamia or in Iran. In these particular doctrines the survival of Gnostic themes is ubiquitous..."

Christian Gnostics

  • According to the 2nd century BC Book of Jubilees 4:7-13[6] Seth married his sister in 231 AM, who was four years younger than he was. In the year 235 AM, Azura gave birth to Enos.
  • The Sethians[7] were a Christian Gnostic sect who may date their existence to before Christianity. Their influence spread throughout the Mediterranean into the later systems of the Basilideans and the Valentinians. Their thinking, though is predominantly Judaic in foundation influenced by Platonism. Sethians are so called for their veneration of the biblical Seth, who is depicted in their myths of creation as a divine incarnation; consequently, the offspring or 'posterity' of Seth are held to comprise a superior elect within human society.
  • The Knights of Seth[8] were a 19th-century British-Germann Neo-Sethian group that attempted to resurrect that medieval Gnostic and dualistic Christian tradition.

Generations of Adam

"Generations of Adam" refer to the line of descent going through Seth rather than Cain or any of Adam's other offspring. The Sethite line extends to Noah and his three sons. Lamech, the nineth generation from Adam is described as the father of Noah. {Genesis 4:17:22[9] & Genesis 5:1-32[10])

Sethianism

The Sethians were a Gnostic sect so called for their veneration of the third son of Adam and Eve and the lineal descendants who were considered more originally divine than other men. Iranaeus[11] is the main source of information about the Sethians who were considered a pre-christian Jewish sect.

Sethian Controversy

The Gospel of Judas[12] belongs to a school of Gnosticism called Sethianism, a group who looked to Adam's son Seth as their spiritual ancestor. As in other Sethian documents, Jesus is equated with Seth: "The first is Seth, who is called Christ."

The Cainites

The Cainites were an alleged sect of Gnosticism that especially worshipped Cain as a hero. Irenaeus alleged that the Cainites, like a large number of Gnostic groups, were semi-maltheists believing that the god of the Old Testament—Yahweh—was evil, and a quite different and much lesser being to the deity that had created the universe, and who was responsible for sending Jesus. Such Gnostic groups worshipped as heroes all the Biblical figures that had sought to discover knowledge or challenge Yahweh's authority, while demonizing those who would have been seen as heroes in a more orthodox interpretation.

Sethian texts

Non-Christian texts

  • The Apocalypse of Adam[13] - but surviving with Christian redaction.
Adam tells Seth how he learned a word of knowledge of the eternal God from Eve and that he and Eve were indeed more powerful than their supposed creator. But that knowledge was lost in the fall when the subcreator - the demiurge [14] - separated Adam and Eve. Adam relates how three mysterious strangers brought about Seth's begetting and so a preservation of this knowledge. Adam then prophecies at length attempts of the subcreator god to destroy mankind, including the prophecy of the great Deluge.

Christian texts

  • The Apocryphon of John[15]
  • The Thought of Norea[16]
  • The Trimorphic Protennoia[17]
  • The Coptic Gospel of the Egyptians[18]
  • The Gospel of Judas[19]
  • The Untitled Apocalypse (or The Gnosis of the Light)

Later texts (arguably with a Platonist influence)

See also

References

  1. Genesis 4:25 - Biblegateway.com
  2. Biblegateway.com
  3. Noah - Wikipedia
  4. Great Flood - Wikipedia
  5. Al-Masudi Ali ibn al-Husayn ibn Ali al-Mas'udi (c. 896-956) was an Arab historian and geographer (Wikipedia)
  6. Book of Jubilees 'The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament, R.H. Charles, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1913.'
  7. Sethians - Wikipedia
  8. Knights of Seth - Wikipedia
  9. Genesis 4:17:22
  10. Genesis 5:1-32
  11. Iranaeus - Wikipedia
  12. Gospel of Judas - New World Encyclopedia
  13. Apocalypse of Adam - Wikipedia
  14. The demiurge is a concept from the Platonic(SP), Neopythagorean(SP), Middle Platonic(SP), and Neoplatonic(SP) schools of philosophy for an artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and maintenance of the physical universe. The term was subsequently adopted by the Gnostics(SP). Although a fashioner, the demiurge is not necessarily thought of as being the same as the creator figure
  15. Apocryphon of John - Wikipedia
  16. Thought of Norea - Wikipedia
  17. Trimorphic Protennoia - Wikipedia
  18. Coptic Gospel of the Egyptians - Wikipedia
  19. Gospel of Judas - Wikipedia
  20. Zostrianos - Wikipedia
  21. Three Steles of Seth - Wikipedia
  22. Marsanes - Wikipedia
  23. Allogenes - Wikipedia

External links